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Im having a persistent problem with my new lover who is a chronic mumbler. I need to either be standing on his right or watching his mouth when he speaks so that I can hear/lipread, and though I have reminded him, he still mumbles.
Weve gotten into fights about it. I hate asking "WHAT?" after everything he says, He hates repeating himself.
Ive tried the "I" statements , and even rewarded him for talking at a tone I can hear. Its still an issue.
PLease tell me this happens to you too.
Weve gotten into fights about it. I hate asking "WHAT?" after everything he says, He hates repeating himself.
Ive tried the "I" statements , and even rewarded him for talking at a tone I can hear. Its still an issue.
PLease tell me this happens to you too.
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Thu, August 10, 2006 - 1:20 PMIf he doesn't want to repeat himself, why is he dating someone who is 50% deaf?
If you are 50% deaf, why are you dating a person who refuses to accommodate your basic needs?
I was involved with somebody who has known me forever and yet never quite managed to learn to deal with my hearing (I am profoundly heard of hearing and wear aids in both ears). When I had feedback during intimate moments, he told me to turn them off, despite the fact that I then become disoriented and can't hear those all-important aural cues.
The above was but one manifestation of his lack of basic empathy, and the relationship did not end well.
Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, but that was my experience.
In contrast, my spouse is soft-spoken by nature but understands when I need him to move or repeat something. Again, it's called empathy. I find your new lover's lack of it to be worrisome, but I guess you'll see how things unfold.
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Sat, August 12, 2006 - 10:54 AMI sorta agree with the last post...sometimes my gf needs reminding that I don't everything that's said...
I had co workers that constantly covered their mouths when they talked and also complained about me being too close or whatever and I try to explain that it's A) rude to talk with your hand in front of your mouth to cover it b) I sometimes lip-read and I need to be able "see" him talk and if he can't accomendate my disability I'm just gonna have correspond with him via emails...
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Sun, August 13, 2006 - 12:13 PMWow, I find it not only rude but downright mean and ignorant when people cover their mouths like that.
Having said that, I can almost expect it sometimes from outside people, but I figure my partner had better try to understand and accommodate my disability or else I'm probably not with the right person. -
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Fri, September 15, 2006 - 5:12 PMWell, velveeta, Im a bit offended that you jumped to so many concluscions, but I wont take it personal.
Mumbling is a habit. He was raised by a stern chinese family that valued quiet children. He doesnt mumble to be rude, or passive aggressive, or to fuck with me. He is a deeply caring person, and aside from the mumbling , we have no other issues. Why would I dump a wonderful person because of an incovenient habit?
My own parents forget my deafness, they even make FUN of me when they are trying to get my attention and I cant hear them They call me DEEF, or DEATH, or say "what?what?what?" to tease me. MY OWN PARENTS.
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Tue, October 3, 2006 - 11:22 AMI would have responded sooner, but I've been away from Tribe for awhile.
Sorry if I offended you, but I've had 47 years worth of experience with this. My family members are not the most considerate or understanding people in the world when it comes to my hearing, but I try to accept that because we don't choose our family members and I can't change them.
I didn't actually suggest that you dump him, I just posed a question to make you think. I'm glad he's a deeply caring person and I can certainly appreciate the cultural and developmental issues that you cited. But I can't help thinking that a deeply caring person with no other issues would be willing to compensate for his inconvenient habit by doing the logical thing, which would be to repeat himself when you need him to without making an issue of it.
Because otherwise he's got you doing all the work, and he's got more control over his behavior in this situation than you do. You can't choose to hear better, but he can choose to repeat himself as needed, right?
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Wed, October 11, 2006 - 8:14 AMHey D.
I can completely relate to this and like your thinking! I didn't think your original post was offensive at all.
One thing to remember is that we all have different cases of Deafness. Some of us sign, some of us speak, some of us relate to the Deaf Community and some of us don't. We all have different needs and relate to our own deafness in many ways. Having over 20 years experience, I've had to get picky for my own well-being! If my date isn't willing to sign? Shoo Fly... just go away. Too many years of being the only one putting forth effort to communicate effectively in previous relationships.... has left me one stubborn bitch!
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Tue, October 3, 2006 - 11:10 PMI wouldn't say that Velveeta jumped to conclusions so much as you left important information out of your original post. The way it was written, I came away with the same perception of your partner.
That being said, habits can change. You have to work at it, but they can be changed. It takes time and patience. Good luck!
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Re: 50% deaf and dating a Mumbler
Sat, November 4, 2006 - 9:09 AMGentle reminders help, but don't always work, especially when the person you're talking to is annoyed or stressed out. I've found that speaking clearly in a normal tone helps, as sometimes this can nudge the person to match your tone and manner of speaking.
Yes, saying "what?" repeatedly is annoying, but when I talk to other profoundly hard of hearing people like myself, I ask myself for patience and try to speak as clearly as possible without over-enunciating at a normal or slightly louder than normal volume, if need be, because I understand that this will probably help get things started in the right direction.
Unfortunately, a lot of hearing people just don't get it. They simply do not understand that gray area between total deafness and hearing perfectly, and it's certainly not a personal vendetta against the hard of hearing, but rather a lack of knowledge. I've had so many conversations in noisy situations where the person begins to yell in my ear, which doesn't help communication at all and also hurts! I find that I have to again, gently push the person away, so that I can read his lips, or on the cell phone, hold the phone away a bit and gently again, in a normal tone of voice, say, "I'm sorry, I'm hard of hearing and I'm having trouble understanding you."
It's interesting that so many people understand vision on a spectrum between blindness and 20-20 vision, but that's because wearing glasses, getting vision checked, and so on is so common, it is incorporated into our health plans and everyday lives.
On a daily basis, I find that people really need to be educated. I explain that my particular loss means that I cannot hear high frequencies without my hearing aids in and that it's quite weird for me sometimes. I cannot hear the microwave or any alarm clocks, but that the hum from the refrigerator or the central heater can keep me from sleeping at night!
I once went to dinner with an old friend, someone I don't see very often, and when we arrived at the restaurant, he asked me if it was too noisy for me. I was so touched. It really floored me that he remembered and thought of me. My parents will sometimes do this, but hardly ever a friend! Wow. It was really a moment for me.
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